[Josh Hallett. Photo from his File]
Josh Hallett has spent more time than any consultant I know, talking to large and midsize companies about social media strategies. I've used him as a corporate business barometer over the past couple of years. When Josh had lots of time, social media adoption was slow. Lately, he has been extremely busy and I think that is indicative of what's happening regarding social media in the enterprise, making him an ideal selection for the wrap up interview of this phase of the SAP Global Survey.
He's an internationally recognized thought leader in the
convergence of social media and corporate public relations &
marketing. Until this week, he has operated as Hyku, LLC, consulting and doing development work to Fortune
500 firms, the traditional media and some of the world’s largest public
relations and marketing firms.
Yesterday he announced he has joined the social media team at Voce Communications, a popular Silicon Valley PR firm where he has been consulting for some time.
He is the creator/producer/host/moderator of BlogOrlando, a regional social media conference and a popular public speaker. He is also a a Fellow/Board Member of the Society of New Communications
Research as well as a member of the Information Architecture Institute
and the Florida Public Relations Association.
1. Can you tell me how and why you first got into social media? How has it
impacted your business and personal life?
Back in early 2003 I had just left the web development firm I founded in 1996 (now called CNP Studio). I started Hyku to provide consulting to select clients on web/communication strategy. I also started blogging.
Pre-Hyku, many of my clients were PR firms and ad agencies. One day an agency asked me to work up a presentation on ‘what’s next online’ for a staff retreat. I developed an overview of blogging and other forms of online community. The term social media didn’t really exist since there were no podcasts or video blogs. It was mostly blogging and forums.
That internal presentation in 2003 turned into, ‘Can you consult with us on that,’ ‘Can you present to our local PRSA,’ etc. By late 2004, half my work involved social media. By the end of 2005 it was almost 100%. I’m lucky to have a blend of the strategic, the technical and some design thrown in as well. The mixture helps me work across a number of roles on projects.
Over the past few years I’ve worked for a number of large corporations and media firms as well as some great PR firms. Very recently, my role changed. I’m not on my own anymore. I’ve taken a position at Voce Communications in Palo Alto, CA. Hyku will become my personal site, and in many ways it has always been my personal site, just intertwined with my business.
How has social media impacted my business life? As I said, I’ve been working in the field since 2003 and almost exclusively for the past 2 and a half years. It has become my business. The interactions I’ve had online have been innumerable friendships and connections around the world.
What’s ironic though, is that in this ‘virtual’ world, I’m traveling more than ever. You still can’t beat the face-to-face interactions. Some of the my most trusted colleagues are the ones I often see at various events around the country.
On a personal level it’s been very gratifying to see the BlogOrlando conference develop into something. The ability of a group of friends to get together and organize a free event like that is something. Recently, Joe Thornley talked about the ‘cult of generosity’ that surrounds the social media industry.
2. What tools do you use? Which are your favorites?
This might sound like a cop-out to the question, because it’s not really a tool. It’s my network of friends. Sure tools like IM, RSS, Facebook and Twitter allow me to communicate with those friends, but the tools do nothing without the friends. It’s the ability to quickly communicate with individuals one-on-one or a group that has become quite the asset.
However if I had to choose just three things (well four technically) I’d say:
1. RSS Reader – The ability to receive what I want, when I want is what RSS is all about. I use NewNewsWire on my Mac and it’s always open.
2. Keyword Watches – Combine a persistent search in Technorati or Google Blog Search with RSS and you take the functionality of your RSS reader up a notch.
3. MovableType/WordPress – The ability to quickly and easily publish content is what these platforms are all about. Almost every single web site I interact with today is run on one of these platforms. It’s amazing how much those two tools are a part of my worklife.
4. Flickr – As an amateur photographer, I love Flickr. It does everything I need it to, and more. Currently I have close to 13,000 photos stored online. That number will probably double or triple in the next year.
3. You talk to a lot of mid and large size corporations. What would you say
is the state of social media in their corporate minds?
This, of course, varies by company since there are always pockets of growth/resistance in any corporation. In my experience though, many corporations outside the valley/tech sector are still learning. I am constantly conducting internal training sessions and it’s usually the same questions over and over again. Granted there is more and more interest, which means means more questions and discussion, but that doesn’t always translate into action. The majority of firms I talk to realize they’re not ready. This could be related to: legal, cultural, etc.
If they do move forward often the first steps are usually either:
a. Internal
b. Related to a small event or project
4. What motivates corporations to adopt social media tools? What tools are
they most demanding these days?
I really hate to say, ‘Keeping up with the Joneses’ or ‘Fear’ but sometimes those are great motivators. They tell themselves about community and engagement, but it’s not until they actually get out there that they realize that those things are real and have a benefit. This is especially the case for organizations that haven’t generally opened themselves up to the customer/public, etc.
Usually by starting small with an event or a specific product team a corporation can really test the waters. I hate to say it’s a controlled environment, but often with a product team they will know their power users and (hopefully) have established relationships with them. Social media just helps facilitate the conversation.
As for the tools they’re demanding? My experience has mostly been with blogging platforms and how to integrate them with existing web sites. The majority of the work is either in WordPress or MovableType. However, there are quite a few people who still want/need to use TypePad.
Flickr is also being used quite frequently by clients. The Number One feature that organizations love about Flickr is the auto-resize of images uploaded. Now via the ‘all-sizes’ tab they have the ability to quickly and easily post photos and it’s not just for their blog.
5. What are the biggest barriers to enterprise adoption of social media
tools? Who is objecting the most?
Staff and time. You can throw up the standard legal/IT argument, but almost every project that I see proposed and that goes nowhere is because of staff resources. They just can’t budget the time for an individual or group of individuals to take ownership. Many fear it will become a ‘full-time’ thing, but if the project takes off, that’s what you want.
There will always be things that legal will object to, but guess what? You can probably build an initiative around something you CAN talk about. A social media project doesn’t have to be a complete inside look at your organization and what’s going on. You can start small with something you can talk about and manage.
As for IT, many times we’re doing an end-around. Via the PR or marketing departments the entire project is built outside the IT department on an external server, i.e. blog.companyname.com. This can be done on a separate server with MT, WordPress or via a hosted service like TypePad.
6. What trends do you see happening in the enterprise regarding social media?
I see two things happening. The interest and buzz will die down somewhat, but the adoption will rise. What I mean is that it seems everybody is talking about it now, but for a large majority of organizations after they learn about it, much of the clamoring for education will go away. It will be on to the actual implementation and use.
Remember the days when building a web site was guaranteed to get you on the front page of the business section? That cycle happened all over again with things like blogs, SecondLife, etc. Launching a blog or another social media initiative is no longer buzz-worthy. However, if planned and executed correctly it can be effective.
As colleges begin to adapt their curriculum, the majority of graduates will have some exposure as well and that will change internal corporate culture.
7. Can you take a stab at telling me how social media will impact the
enterprise over the next five years?
I think this blends elements from Questions 3, 4, 5 and 6. Overall, I think you’ll see more adoption of the tools for a variety of purposes, both internal and external. However the lasting effects are what the tools are helping facilitate and that is communication. Increased communication and the humanization of corporations are a good thing in my book, some industries may disagree though.
8. Do you have any good case studies to share with me?
Well, Kami Huyse has already talked about the SeaWorld project that she and I worked on together earlier this year.
Kami handled the PR and outreach, while I worked on the technical aspects.
At Voce one of the most recent successes has been the Sony PlayStation Blog , which launched in June. The project started in early 2007 working towards a June launch. The primary goal was to establish a blog as a platform for conversation between SCEA and PlayStation fans.
Voce managed all aspects of the project from start to finish, including blog design and content planning, policy creating and internal protocol development as well as moderation and measurement.
It’s been great to watch the level of commentary going on at the blog and see how a number of folks within SCEA are participating.
9. What advice do you have for SAP regarding social media and their global
business?
It starts with allowing your employees to engage others outside the workplace in a natural way. If they work in one specific field just let them be themselves online in external forums/communities. Who better to know the intricacies of a culture or a situation, than those that actually live and work there.
10. Additional comments?
It’s interesting to see how the answers get shorter as the questions go on, I noticed that trend with some of the other respondents.
Thanks for allowing me to participate and offering the BlogOrlando attendees a sneak peak at some of your findings.