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Shel, why do I keep reading the same story with more complications? Does anyone think Loren got you fired from FastTV? Did anyone suggest that he stopped you getting sponsors? Is it interesting that you think that Arrington might start a video channel with Loren? For grief's sake, there is absolutely no point in repeatedly raising these issues. You are using a public forum to make a point to about five people. The rest of us don't give a flying f**k about it, honest.
Personally, I'm interested to see what you do next and I'm really glad you are 'liberated'. Now please let it lie.

Get over it and move. Mike is a nice person but has an enormous ego. He likes people who support his views. Thats human.

"Silicon Valley is a bad neighborhood to live in when you have pissed off Michael Arrington."

I think thats perception, however I also tend to lean towards that perception.
http://friendfeed.com/e/9e4d9047-d9a7-8920-4ed8-f5562494617f/It-s-Time-For-Our-Annual-TechCrunch-Event-at/

I don't fully understand this feud, but a look at Loren's Technigga video leaves a very bad taste. If Loren's puppets display similar "humor", I would question judgment of people giving him further face time.

Shel -

Don't let the haters get you down. There is almost nothing you can do about it. What you can do is move on and laugh it off (even if that's not what you feel like doing). It's like my mom used to say about my brother, don't let him get a rise out of you. I have to believe that the more it bothers you the more they enjoy it.

The best revenge is good work. So keep up the good work.

As someone who was with you at an SAP event earlier his year I can say for sure that you are seen very positively there and very seriously.

Shel, I had a troll on Ourmedia who followed me online, defaced the site and created semi-pornographic videos. Despite reasonable requests to settle his perceived grievances, nothing stopped him -- except time. After 9 months or so, he lost interest and quietly went away.

Not saying that would happen here -- and a video troll is a new one on me -- but the first rule of discussion boards is: don't feed the troll.

this is such a shame.

Shel - anyone who has done a video with this puppet is NOT your friend in any sense of the word. You believing that anyone is means you seriously need help. If the puppet's name was John Doe it would be one thing, but the puppet is using your name to promote things. Kevin Rose, Arrington, Calacanis, etc. all of them did these videos and didn't give a crap about you. You need to realize this. Believing that they are your friends is wrong, very wrong.

Loren is a loser, has been a loser and will be a loser. He has arrington to pump him over and over but that's about it. he claims this is free speech but it's not.

And frankly, Scoble isn't your friend either. I know it's hard to swallow, but cut all ties with him and fc and move on.

Loren will keep making videos using your puppet because he has nothing else at all. His followers are typical trolls who moved over from TC.

Hi Shel,

We met briefly at SXSW08. I believe it was at the Iron Cactus.

Here's my soap box: I am so sick of people being bullied and people playing the victim. It sucks when people who are suppose to be mature, professional, role models act like they are in high school. I understand that drama sells and that's the reason we have news stories on Paris Hilton instead of serious issues. On the flip side, since drama does sell, should you be that upset that someone is spending that much public energy on you? At least you're playing with the big dogs.

All the best,
Sally Strebel

Shel, I had no idea this egregious affair was still going on. It's utterly deplorable anyone could claim to be your friend and yet endorse Feldman's antics at your expense. I have intentionally avoided anyone I've noticed shucking & jiving with Feldman. What profit is there in associating with someone who intentionally risks damaging someone's professional identity for his own gain? You, Shel, are certainly *not* deserving of such harassment. I wish my defense of you & condemnation of Feldman's assault on your good name mattered to the powers-that-be. You certainly have my support.

Shel, my advice to you would be to let this statement be the end of your discussion about it. For what it's worth, I never covered this on my little blog (like it would have made a difference if I had anyway) because it seemed like I would have been giving something silly and graceless more attention than it deserved.

I don't know Feldman. For that matter, I don't really know you, having only met you in person the once (third tuesday ottawa). But what I know of you via that, via your blog, and via your book, I like.

Nil illegitimus carborundum.

I think this simple statement setting things straight is appropriate. There has been a lot of misinformation out there. The good news is that most of us are happily ignoring the big boys and their "fun." I also think that people have an interesting way of dealing with bullies. I agree that ignoring them is often the best course, but sometimes truth needs to be added to the equation.

You know Shel, for a few months, we've sat here listening to you whine bitch and complain about Loren's puppets, Arrington not being a true friend, Jason doing this that and the other, etc., and yet throughout the whole thing the only thing we haven't seen is that you've actually learned anything from the experience.

Yes it sucks when people attack you, but Feldman's biggest attacks on you were about the quality of what you were turning out. It wasn't just that you were turned into a puppet, it's the inanity of the questions you asked and the people you talked to that were drawing criticism, and instead of learning from that, you turned it into an oppression complaint and a "woe is me" vibe.

Your gig flopped because you're simply not good on video. You're a writer not a video personality. Your "friend" Robert Scoble should've known this, and instead left you out to dry in a medium you obviously weren't comfortable in. I can only imagine what the other 20 episodes you supposedly had in the can were like. How many shotgun mics to the face and owls in the background...

In the end, you learned nothing from the whole thing, though. Instead of gaining some knowledge from the valid (if not softly delivered) criticism, you continue to act as if things were just fine and you got a bum deal and now the angle is your friends all abandoned you.

Enough already. Move on. Stop pretending you're looking into legal options. Stop reporting the mean evil Loren to Twitter like a kid running to a teacher instead of fighting back. In the end, the way you handled this thing up to and including today means that despite your status as an "expert" on social media, you really have no idea how to interact with people and, if you'll pardon the pun, how to turn lemons into lemonade.

Let it go.

Move on.

Life's too short and you're too old to be acting like a damn spurned cheerleader who got dumped on prom night by the quarterback.

I have to confess that prior to seeing this puppet thing I'd never heard of you. In fact, it was Lorens puppet show that prompted me to look into 'you' a little further. I was expecting to find some bouncy guy with a tash and a funny voice. For the record you are nothing like the puppet.

Honestly, I had no idea "Shel Israel" was a *real person* and not just a funny, made-up name for a puppet, until I read this post - randomly linked from someone's Twitterfeed. Someone is co-opting your name and your identity. That ain't right.

"If you are part of an enterprise, you probably also know social media budget remain low, and money for sponsoring an online video program about social media in business is a pretty tough sell."

It is the opposite at the moment, there is _heaps_ of sponsorship money out there - you just need the right audience. Vendors are desperate to get their message out, so the money is there.

Your problem is that you have to stop talking about low budgets, Loren and everything else and actually get to work producing a compelling show that people want to watch. If you really love doing it, and it comes across on camera, you wouldn't give a shit about sponsors for now - its because you reak of desperation that they are staying away.

Btw, because of your handling of this episode you have probably lost the gram of respect you may have earnt with the Naked Conversations book. You pretty much called yourself out as having nothing but a profit motive and a huge ego (which is what Loren took advantage of in the first place)

"Loren Feldman has a big and powerful friend in Michael Arrington"

You realize that Loren actually got his start by attacking Arrington? Same for the other guys. The difference between them and you is that you _completely_ didn't handle it properly and just the stuff you say is ripe for parody, especially this very post

You blame everybody, including a super-all-knowing-Arrington, when the blame lies squarly with you.

Keep digging Shel

Why don't you just fight back and win this one. think that you will regret letting this sleepy dog lie.

If you think Arrington needs to be challenged then challenge him and shut up. Scoble isn't your friend either. He used you to promote himself.

You need to make a decision. Do you want to be remembered as the guy who was beat up by Arrington, used by Scoble, and someone who ran for the hills? Or do you want to be remembered for fighting back using your platform in social media and winning. Do the former my friend and your business will boom.

Regards,
A Friend and fan sitting in the cheap seats


At first I just found your situation fascinating from an intellectual standpoint but you really are just starting to piss me off now. I mean, good God you’re an idiot. You really are.

First, as Calacanis said, the puppets ARE fun. Arrington might have introduced a few people to Loren Feldman who then thought it would be cool to be interviewed by the puppet but I doubt it was more than that. Once people saw the material they just thought the puppets were fun and wanted to play.

The fact that you consider those who did interviews with the puppets to be “against you” proves you STILL don’t get it. After months of EVERYONE trying to explain this to you. Not only do you still not get it but you just won't drop it.

Arrington made a point of actually looking out for you in the last post when he told you to just drop it but your too damn arrogant to hear the message.

Speaking of, I notice that nowhere in your little diatribe do you mention that Arrington was attacked just as hard as you at one point and he took it in stride and actually became friends with Loren. Same goes for Calacanis.

Had you just let it roll off your back and went back to work this wouldn’t be an issue. You said yourself: Sponsors didn’t care. No one cared. It was just funny. There aren’t any conspiracies, or sides, or anything. You aren’t that important. I doubt anyone even thought of you while being interviewed by the puppet because the point of the thing is the puppet. Not you.

Never have I met anyone who has accomplished so little but who thought so much of themselves.

No one person is 'the most powerful person in social media'. If you believe that, there's some revisiting of the subject that needs to be done.

All this other stuff is just television.

I really have been working too much, I didn't even realize all of this was going on! I've both cringed but enjoyed some of Loren's videos (I've not seen the puppetry) and I've always appreciated your contributions to social media.

Neither Arrington nor Feldman initiated my dive into Social Media - it was your book with Scoble that did that. Naked Conversations still stands the test of time and I still recommend it.

All that said, I'm not at the center of the 'humor', you are. I think it speaks volumes for you to come out like this and tell folks how it makes you feel.

A small part of me wishes I was well-known enough to have an A-Lister make fun of me.

Thanks for a heartfelt post, Shel! I wish you peace, my friend. This, too, shall pass.

I sway back and forth on this argument, but one thing I do know is that I think Arrington has way too much power and people really bave to start questioning him. Techcrunch has very little credibility in my eyes and I'm bored of hearing about it. I'm also beginning to get bored of Loren, originally I could watch him and it was fairly funny, but I can't really understand what the point of anything he does is, it pretty much boils down to mindless entertainment...zzzzz

I have my money on Shel. Shel say something please. Fight back my friend

Wow. Still this goes on.

OK, first, the puppet videos are funny, often very funny. I know it's next to impossible to laugh at them when you're the one being lampooned and you've been through everything you've been through, but they are, indeed, funny.

Second, I think you're far more creatively effective in writing than you are in video. Just my opinion. Each of us has a creative sweet spot.

Third, I agree with the sentiments of many of the commenters here: you're prolonging this affair to your detriment. No good can come to you by continuing this, Shel, no good.

Turn this over to people who have the resources and the air time and the independence from intimidation. Forward TechNigga to Al Sharpton and to the Silicon Valley branch of the NAACP. That should be fun to watch. If the protests make the national news, you can buy me lunch at McDonald's some day.

Then move on.

If people don't like Techcrunch or don't like Loren, then don't watch or read it - its how the market works.

Instead you all sit around whinging all day .. pfft

Tom, that's wrong -- to have fun at someone else's expense. Shel is a real person, and the pain you inflict is real pain. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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